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Logitech QuickCam C600

Logitech QuickCam C600

Postby WalterMo » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:51 pm

Has somebody experience with the new Logitech QuickCam C600?

I am still looking for a good Web Cam with a more square printed board and the photo sensor in the centre. The well-known Pro9000 and the Pro for Notebook have an oblong board which is difficult to build in an already existing aluminium case.

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Re: Logitech QuickCam C600

Postby Ordibble Plop » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:20 am

Hi Walter

Someone has already dismantled the C600 http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Logitech ... 600/1504/1
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Re: Logitech QuickCam C600

Postby WalterMo » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:38 am

Hi Dave,
Thanks for the link to the Logitech C600 dismounting.
About the photo sensor they are writing CCD, but everywhere else I can read CMOS. It would be nice if it really would be a CCD one. Furthermore I can read 4:3 aspect ratio. Elsewhere is written 16:9. I am a bit confused.

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Re: Logitech QuickCam C600

Postby Ordibble Plop » Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:06 pm

Here is the original page where I saw the link to the dismantling instructions, which includes some discussion - http://www.iheartrobotics.com/2009/11/d ... -c600.html

It seems the assumption it is a CCD sensor is based solely on some test images, though quite what the 'proof' is I'm not sure. Having said that, I cannot find anywhere a statement about what sensor type it is.
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Re: Logitech QuickCam C600

Postby WalterMo » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:38 pm

In the meantime I have bought the Logitech QuickCam C600, removed its original lens and built the cam board into an already existing alu housing:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=468&p=2222&hilit=trust+wb5400#p2222

The former board with the TRUST WB5400 (1.3M pixels) had to go.

Advantage of the C600:
Ness noisy than the TRUST.
More pixels (2Mp) than the TRUST.
An IR cut-off filter, which is necessary for correct colourful texture shots, is directly attached to the board and not glued to the lens.
Less expensive than the Pro9000.
Faster than the Pro9000. E.g. at 800x600 pixels = 30fps. Pro9000 = 15fps.

Disadvantage of the C600:
Fixed focus lens (f = 3.7mm).
At 960x720 pixels is only a digital zoom-mode possible. That means the cam takes this pixel field in a relation 1:1 out of the complete field of 1600x1200 pixels. This results in a zoom effect. Logitech don't support this format at their movie and photo maker software, which is included. Like all Logitech WebCams, the C600 is also a CMOS one.

Possible 4:3 formats:
320x240 at 30 fps
640x480 at 30fps
800x600 at 30fps
960x720 (zoomed) at 30 fps
1280x1024 at 10 fps
1600x1200 at 10 fps

And a lot of 16:9 formats which can also be used by DAVID.
e.g. 1280x720 at 25fps

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Re: Logitech QuickCam C600

Postby MagWeb » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:52 pm

Hi,

I followed Walter hacking the C600.
Due to the fixed focus of the C600, I think the PR09000 still is the better choice to use with DAVID if you do not want to hack the cam.

If you are going to add a CS mount optic, the C600 only offers advantages - double framerate, less costs, less wasted stuff no soldering necessary.

It is a bit more complicated to open the ball housing: remove the manual trigger button with a little screwdriver (best quite in the middle of the oval button). Under the button you´ll find a screw, which fixes both halfballs.... Or brutal force....

On the board you can simply remove all the pin connectors (mic, manual trigger, some optics close - switch) but the USB cable connector.

Nice compact board
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Re: Logitech QuickCam C600

Postby WalterMo » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:09 pm

Additionally regarding the advantages of the C600 mentioned by Gunter:

If you intend to build another lens in front of the camera board you can still use the original IR cut-off filter.
It's directly mounted over the photo sensor. But removable. Such a filter isn't easy to get (in small quantities) and it's also not cheap. Often this filter is glued (more fused with the plastic) at the backside of the lens and difficult to remove.

A link with a detailed 'how to open' the C600 was found by Ordibble Plop:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Logitech ... 600/1504/1
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