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Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

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Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby n0f8r » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:37 pm

I tried Solidworks integrated ScanTo3D and that was a horrible experience - I guess I had too many vertices/triangles. I have access indirectly to a copy of Geomagic Studio 2012 and that's brilliant, but it's awkward getting access to it, and purchasing my own copy is just out of my price-league.

Is there anything out there that can make CAD surfaces (parametric/NURBS) out of XhundredK+ triangle meshes that costs less than $5K or thereabouts ?

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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby hunkatibor2 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:55 am

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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby milz » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:08 am

hi

i testing atm Geomagic Studio
very powerfull software

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The real deal is not the software, but retopology

Postby MayCrown » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:18 am

The meshes you get with a 3d scan are too complicated for any software to be converted to surfaces succesfully and without crashes.

Geomagic is a great software, I also use Geomagic, I'm not trying surfaces but if I had to,
- I would clean up the mesh (you can use the geomagic tool, mesh doctor.)
- I would decimate the number of triangles.
- I would make a retopology.

Then everything would be quite easy and fast.

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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby dangre » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:07 pm

I am in the same boat as you. I use SolidWorks for my primary 3D design. It only imports max 20k triangle meshes. Most of mine are 2M+. I can't afford Geomagic but have hired someone who does. I often use a combination of MeshLab, Rhino, 3D Coat, and my favorite for mesh cleanup/reduction NetFabb. I wish Geomagic would come out with an inexpensive software only version that comes with their new scanner, Capture:
http://www.geomagic.com/en/products/capture/overview
I wonder how many sales $ they would get if they sold it for $1000 instead of $30,000.
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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby pottersfriend » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:58 am

T-splines for rhino might be an option. I haven't used it myself but was thinking about it since I already own Rhino. They seem to have some new re-topo tools that look promising. Of course you have to have a licensed copy of rhino to use it. If it works it seems like a very affordable option since rhino is about $1000 USD and t-splines is about $675 USD.
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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby n0f8r » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:46 am

@MayCrown - my experience is that IS possible to autosurface meshes with 100s of thousands or even millions of triangles, as I said in my OP, GeoMagic Studio does it, and easily. The resulting surfaces are then perfectly usable in Solidworks.

I'm working on a dental prosthetic device which incorporates scans of complete upper and lower jaws. I've completed one device for the first volunteer, but I need to do several more. I've found that if I decimate lower than a few hundred K I start losing important details, so your suggestion of just using smaller meshes is no good for me. Sure - simplified meshes of near equivalence can be made from scans of manufactured products, but organic scans tend to be more complex.

My problem is that I don't have a license for GeoMagic - access depends on the not in-exhaustible patience of a friend, and I can't afford a license myself - I'm looking for an alternative that's in a lower price bracket. Rhino would be great if it could actually do effective autosurfacing of large meshes. I have been playing with the demo download, to be honest I've struggled with it's interface. However - if it can do what I need I will tough out the learning curve ...

@Tibor - have you actually used Rhino to autosurface meshes with over 200K triangles? if so did you use T-splines as suggested by Pottersfriend?

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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby hunkatibor2 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:44 am

Hi Kevin
Unfortunately, I'm not a professional. I use a solution of Geomagic10 five years since.
The T-spline on the drafting of the jewelry design dream but I am very beginning.
If you buy the Rhino5 will give you great support on the forum, you can ask whatever you will have your answer. I was banned because I was not using it right.
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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby milz » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:13 am

surface reconstruction is a one click business with geomagic but the price make me cry -(
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Postby hunkatibor2 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:41 pm

Hi Milz
There is one investor familiar, he says, the price of a work comes to find her. I have not failed.
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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby hunkatibor2 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:44 am

Hi
I made a quick reference to the B-surface use Blender store. A big advantage of free use and can be downloaded free of charge.
Tibor
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?225190-Bsurfaces-v1-5
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B-surface1.jpg
B-surface
B-surface2.jpg
Mesh+Bsurface
B-surface3.jpg
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Re: Affordable software to map meshes to CAD surfaces?

Postby Scope3d » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:59 pm

We use Geomagic software in our scanning service and think it is the best way to go. Currently we have an unused license of Geomagic Verify that we would probably sell for way less than we paid for it. If you are interested it would be a way to get Verify cheap.

Send an email to: Sales@scope3.net

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